Slightly off topic - but if these Nokia phones have all the functions as the N810 and a phone too , excepting the touchscreen, I wonder how the as-of-now-vapourware "Nokia Tube" will stand up as a real competitor to the N8XX series, as that will have touchscreen too apart from phone functions etc.

Maybe the "Tube" is the 4th or 5th iteration of the N8XX series ???

Speculation - just speculation ...