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Originally Posted by Thesandlord View Post
Ture! But at least it is better than the N900, which is still vaporware.

But seriously, when is the N900 going to come out? Lets see, N810W is still not out, so say it come out in September. How long a gap was there between N800 and N810, or N810 and N810W? Like 6 months give or take. So the N900 will be released next summer.
The N810w was to be out already, and I'd bet was done on time, but they were releasing it in conjunction with Sprint Xohm rollout; being held back by the reorganizations and delays on the network side doesn't mean Nokia's hardware guys are sitting around staring at N810w prototypes all day. I expect N900 development schedule is not being substantially altered by this, and if you think Nokia is going to sit on the N900 to try to maximize profit from the N810, or from some wierd "there must be 6 months" rule, I disagree. They can see that there's competition.

Next Summer will not be now, not even close. The playing field will be radically different. All the Android stuff, and Pandora, and MIDs and blah blah blah will be out. And they will all be better or at least the same as the realistic N900 presented in this forum. What advantage does the N900 have?
The Pandora looks to be precisely equivalent hardware in a different form-factor, and with different software. The N900 will have the benefit of more end-user targeted software, and probably a tablet or slider form-factor. (Which I like better; others prefer clamshells.)

Android devices will probably also be close competitors, but since there will be a number of different devices, it's hard to say much. I expect they'll bracket the N900 in capabilities; price will vary, especially with carrier subsidies and such.

The N900 will thrash most MIDs for battery life and/or portability, but they'll run x86 apps. I don't see these as being as close of competition as you imply, and the blah-blah-blahs I'm thinking of tend to track further away (in the same direction).

N800 and 770 were awesome devices, because there was nothing like them on the market. Now things have changed, and nothing is being done.
It's true the market has other players now, but it doesn't seem like it's that bad from here; I don't see another device I like better than either of the N8x0s right now in the same price range; even up to $600, and I'm not sure one is coming beyond maybe the Pandora and some Androids. The Pandora is the only real competitor to me, and as I've said is pretty near equivalent AFAICT. The Androids will be more competition for the target market, I think, but it's too early to tell about them, and I don't see any reason to believe they've necessarily got a substantial first-to-market advantage.

Like it or not, the iPhone has changed everything. Just look, everything is now (falsely) an "iClone", even a 770 that came out before! Seriously, I was watching Harold and Kumar: GB, and my friend said "Lol, he is too cheap to buy an Iphone..." and I had to explain the the "phone" he was using was not a phone and it came out years before the iPhone. Needless to say, he only believed me because he trusts me as a friend and gadget lover. I don't understand what Nokia is doing to change that, and they have to....
This is true, but the lack of openness on Nokia's part about upcoming models doesn't mean they won't be awesome when they arrive, or that they won't arrive soon... at least until the other alternatives materialize, I'll stick with being cautiously optimistic about the successor to the device I'm actually holding.


p.s. Yes, I'm just a bit of a fanboy. That doesn't mean I'm wrong!
 

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