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Originally Posted by anthonybuchanan View Post
Listening to some of your comments about a 5MB camera being no good while 8MB phones are starting to hit the market, lets me thinks most of you have your heads in the clouds. Even if a camera were left off of the device if Nokia does not add phone features then you can kiss the N8XX goodbye.
I think you meant 5MP vs. 8MP , but the point the camera nuts are making is not one of megapixels; I have a 12MP point-and-shoot, and it still takes pictures like a point-and-shoot. Not terrible, but not great, a good 5MP camera beats it for all practical uses. Fortunately for me, that's good enough; even a 3-5MP on a phone would probably do quite well for me. Not that I don't know the difference, but that photography is not a hobby for me, I get my wallpaper more from db than my own pictures, and I don't want to spend the cash on a good camera I don't have time/interest to properly enjoy.

(Which might be drifting OT, except that it makes a good point; since different people have different levels of need for a camera, some people might be cool with a convergence device camera; the same applies for internet device and telephone.)

As for phone capabilities, or at least GPRS/UMTS data connectivity, Nokia's dropped hints that those are going to happen in some model. WiMAX is coming already, so it's obvious that Nokia is interested in ubiquitous data access. If WiMAX does go belly-up, I think they'll have little choice but to refocus on GPRS/etc. access. Otherwise, those may come later, with a focus on the European market. (The reason they're involved with the Xohm push in the US first is probably because of their limited market share here; everywhere else, the N95 is probably the biggest competitor to the N810gsm, and so they don't stand to gain as much by that.)

And I'm with Qole this far: given a good data infrastructure the tablets can access, VoIP can give all the phone capabilites needed; actual GSM voice calls are as necessary to a modern convergence device as AMPS on a phone.

Bottom line: Maybe you totally need a telephone, and somewhat need an internet device and camera; N95 is a great fit, a phone with converged (=compromised, in some ways) internet and camera capabilities. Qole and I totally need an internet device, and somewhat need a phone; we'd like an internet device (N8x0) with a converged (=compromised, in some ways) phone solution like VoIP. The only problem is that there's no existing combo of thoroughbred internet device and ubiquitous network; the only way to get around that right now is to include a phone/modem as a second device. That's why Qole says it doesn't exist. (I'm willing to accept the N95 as converged; I'm working with a different definition of converge than Qole, evidently.)

(I also differ with Qole in pessimism about the possibility of such a network; I see e.g. T-Mobile USA offering unlimited data-only plans at $40/mo, and unlimited quantity data add-ons (for voice plans) at $6/mo (with port-filtering) and $20/mo (w/o filtering); if they achieve decent 3g coverage (which they seemingly plan to) that looks like they're headed there.)
 

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