well I dont know if anyone else noticed, but as of 2 days ago you could pre-order it and it said shipping date Nov 17th. Then today at the 770 website when you clicked the Buy tab it showed a flash intro that said "availible now" then if you clicked buy it now, it forwarded you to another flash intro that said Comming Soon. You coudlnt even get to the pre-order page like before.

then today that changed from Comming Soon to a working Buy it now page like before except with a notice that all current orders wont ship till Dec.

I think that anyone who ordered it prior to today will get it soon, and anyone who order after today will get it in December.