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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
I'm not sure how out of context it could have been. I quoted an entire paragraph of the statement but maybe I missed out on something, seeing as how I'm reading it filtered through several articles. What was the context of the quote that I maybe misinterpreted?
I had not yetread your later post which included a quote.

The text you quoted is an improvement to

"the open community needs to embrace closed and proprietary landmines"
I'll quote some parts hereunder

Jaaksi notes that there are some important lessons that Nokia has learned from the open source community[1], such as the value of working upstream. Companies that are accustomed to proprietary development often tend to fork an open source project internally and then do a public code drop later in order to meet licensing obligations when they release a product. Working directly upstream with other contributors, he says, can prevent fragmentation and accelerate development.

Although he believes that companies need to adapt to and learn from the open source approach, he also thinks that the open source community should be more understanding of the challenges faced by companies and the reasons behind some their restrictive business practices.

"We want to educate open-source developers. There are certain business rules [developers] need to obey[2], such as DRM, IPR [intellectual property rights], SIM locks and subsidized business models," Jaaksi said, according to BusinessWeek. "Why do we need closed vehicles? We do. Some of these things harm the industry but they're here [as things stand]. These are touchy, emotional issues but this dialogue is very much needed. As an industry, we plan to use open-source technologies but we are not yet ready to play by the rules; but this needs to work the other way round too."
[1] Nokia is still learning from the open source model. Examples are then mentioned.
[2] Nokia asserts the open source community has to learn from proprietary model. In a proprietary model (or business model) you cannot just ship ffmpeg or mp3 decoder becaue you believe its useful to the user, or because its open source. You need a code review e.g. to search for copyright infringement, patent infringement, or EULA infringement (think w32codec here). I'm a Fluendo customer for this very reason. Then, examples are made.

What he essentially says, between the lines, is that neither Nokia or the open source community can change overnight, but we have to adapt and learn to each other. Sometimes that means making sacrifices instead of idealism. This is called being pragmatic, practical, something a negotiator knows very well.

An example for this is a SIM lock. This part cannot be open source because this lock is necessary in the current ecosystem. The way phones are sold demands this. I don't like this either, and the protection is laughable, but it exists. Nokia cannot afford to change this (overnight). If you don't like this behaviour I'd say that right now Nokia is not the right corporation to do business with.
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