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Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
OK. I have been thinking about our last discussions here, and there is something strange about it. They change focus.

At first, the N900 was going to take the world by storm because it would allow voip over umts /hsdpa (and massive savings, whatever). Then I pointed out that the entire present N-series and E-series line from Nokia allow voip over umts /hsdpa now. With their built-in software. It's not the future, it's the present. Yet I see no storm. (note that there is another reason why voip over umts is not a great idea, technically speaking, read end of post).

Then, the N900 was going to take the world by storm because it was a new "PC paradigm". Or whatever. I don't see how that could possibly be related to always on connectivity and I'd like to point out that the N800/N810 already are this "new paradigm", yet we do not see a storm of applications for them.
Okay, so it won't take anything by storm. Big deal; no device will. The iPhone took nothing except the media by storm. The Eee was perhaps the closest, but only because it came from nothing. No successor in a line of devices will take things by storm, and there's loads of hype about all of them anyway...

(I haven't reread the discussions to verify this, but my impression has been that different people have different emphases, different reasons they think it will be awesome, not that certain people are ducking around to different issues. And I think most people would say it's a combination; obviously it's not going to take over the world by virtue of using desktop software alone, or laptops (running desktop software) would have done so already!)

Then there is this:
Speculation treated as though it's reliable
What? They don't have anything? What have they been doing all that time? Let me recall you the timeline:
-end 2005: 770
-end 2006: N800 (actually early 2007)
-end 2007: N810
-we are now at end 2008, and talking N900 all dancing singing in a near future. And if they have not even started, we are talking end 2009 at best (manufacturing delays, etc...). Yet, we now have real competitors like: iPhone, Android, eeepc, etc...
Let me recall you the timeline:
  • end 2005: 770
  • early 2007: N8x0 #1
    • end 2007: N8x0 #2
    • end 2008: N8x0 #3
  • reasonable predictions seem to indicate mid 2009: N9xx
Am I the only one to smell the stench of vaporware? At best, the maemo division is severely understaffed (which is never a good sign). At worst....
Yes, I think you are the only one. Why would they be firing up this big summit and everything for this tiny corner of business if they're doing nothing? It's not like some one-trick shop trying to scam (or otherwise impress) the VCs.


The N810 has a 1500 mAh battery and you all know how long it runs the show when you use it for something more than sleep mode. If you want the N900 to run voip over hsdpa for 8 hours a day, you will need a battery roughly twice as big. No improvement on battery technology is on the horizon, so it is going to be twice the volume and twice the weight.

This is what always online means. Think about it.
Well, since it ought to have twice the battery anyway... maybe the HSPA is a good thing even for those who won't use it.
 

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