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Originally Posted by Benson View Post
Not everything's business-model driven, especially things not relying on a central server, or not on frequent communication to that server (like the calendar service noted above).

It's not a free lunch; some of us pay for it by coding, and others by putting up with RTFM!, etc. Think of it as a community-funded lunch.
Fair enough. I have great respect for the people who gave us projects like Linux, Wikipedia, etc... I even try to contribute when I can. Even more: I think it is the only model that will protect us from corporate greed (anyone remembers trusted computing?). But there are limits to the free (as in GPL) model, and I really think that location-based services are beyond that limit.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
No. It isn't.

Take the examples above: Almost all of them can be used for free with the current infrastructure. It's a matter of software, not databases. Wikipedia is a high quality source of location based information and is free. XMPP-based chat services can exchange the locations of users for free, all we need is a client that goes 'beep' when someone's near you. (I live in Europe, too, and I know quite a lot of people who'd get excited about this.)
So what we don't yet have (or do we? I don't know) is the free database for shops and cash machines. Such a database would be much easier to create than a complex project like, say, openstreetmap, so I'm very confident it will be available once people see the need for it.. (I mean, geourl even sorts websites by location, why wouldn't someone come up with "yellow pages" in wiki-style with latitude/longitude?)
Wikipedia cannot search things near your location, I think (I have not found how). You have to use google for that. Google is... well google. Not really evil (we all hope), but certainly not free as in "freedom".

About a free database for shops, only one word comes to mind: spam.

If you know quite a lot of people who would get excited about a location-based XMMP client, then why don't you start a project? At least, it could be made really private, with strong encryption ensuring that only the people you want have access to your location.


(I am painting everything in black here, but I think I am raising valid arguments. And when everyone gets excited about a project, someone has to play the devil's advocate. )
 

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