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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
According to these statistics, you're better off sticking to microwaving all your food.
Too lazy to (dis)connect an adaptor, ahahaha how typical! ******** argument. Make it part of your daily exercise for other statistics prove Americans are fat, lazy, have little to no muscle power or bad posture, need exercise, and burn callories. The American lifestyle is far from a good example to copy albeit a good example to learn from. Yet other statistics prove microwaving food isn't healthy. Besides that, it tastes awful compared to a real, freshly made dish (canned food not included).

I once had fire because an oven got moved because I required space because I wanted to fry some pommes frites. The on/off button was on the side and got put on when I put it aside. I also had fire when (in USA) a power cable got torn apart by a sequoia hit by lightning. Here where I live, there are no power cables to be found in towns or cities anymore. Only large routes between cities for scalability reasons. Why? Security reasons like these. I also had a bad charger from China which I left in the power socket. A few days later when wanting to power up the device in question I found out the LED wasn't burning; adaptor was dead. Another adaptor I bought from Hong Kong still works though. I had lightning strikes, destroying PSU, and several monitors. If you have your (valuable) electronic devices protected by a good surge protector or disconnected you take less risk damaging your electronic devices. Surge protector also protects against fluctuation which might e.g. occur when lightning strikes near your location, or some major power outage elsewhere on a grid you share. Surge protectors also allow one to put off several devices using one switch. For your valuable workstations you keep offline preferably offsite backups, and a UPS might be something to consider, too. A laptop can be put off into suspend to ram or suspend to disk (hibernate) mode which allows it to use (almost) no W, or at least far less. Many embedded and recent processors allow lower power usage via multiple modes (cpu frequencing / scaling), or an energy efficient version exists (like Atom or AMD EE versions).

So for that reason alone it is wise to disconnect chargers when they're not in use. In general, every device always uses power when connected even while off. Especially older adaptors use more. Arguably it is indeed not worth it to disconnect a newer adaptor to save electricity. I wonder if there are databases with this information available; I'd be very interested in wading through such databases. It'd give me a more conscious incentive to change what exactly. While I don't always unplug because of convenience I realize this is potentially bad for my electricity bill, unwise regarding power surges and lightning strikes, and potentially bad for the environment. I'm trying to change this behaviour, and make the setups less complex. Because that is all it is; self-taught behaviour by a culture which wastes resources which can be changed and/or reversed. That is what it is about. Coincidentally, in Europe, electricity and gas prices are going up; not down. And when I was living in the USA I didn't find them low either (now I pay 2-3 EUR cent per kWh). Except for gas in the car. Make that more 500% expensive (say, to pay off your national debt) and see how fun and clean the roads soon become. For the same reason as said before people don't have a huge fridge or refridgerator; they buy every now and then or store in a cool, dry place before using it. Why? Because else the fridge or freezer would be far too expensive both in initial costs (as also taxed on environmental hazard), as well as maintenance and energy bills. Longevity is also an important point. Oh, and dimmers don't save money either.

All in all, having a server or workstation on standby eats far more than an adaptor. A coffee machine connected, same. A TV, too. Not using the dryer but putting the clean laundry outside in the wind also saves a lot of costs. If I do this the summer my laundry is 1) fresh and folded just as easily (minus suits still needed to be ironed) 2) it saves me approx 40-50 EUR 3) my dryer lasts longer, and its better for the environment. A shower is also far less expensive than a bath. As one can see there are many, many other ways in which you can save your wallet and the environment. Lazyness however isn't a valid argument.
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