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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Just a note before I reply specifically. I'll say it again; non-geeks want to do the same things that geeks want to do, they just won't tolerate a high threshold. If something is cool and it is also easy enough to do, everybody, even non-geeks will do it.
That has not been true in my experience. Really. I would suggest that you check again.


I'll answer to some of your comments below.


But, when handheld devices can easily play the same video that plays on big-screen TVs, and it is easy to move video around between devices, and the video looks nice, you'll see everyone watching last night's episode of Lost on their handheld devices on the way to work on the bus.
The iPods do just that. The only limitations are due to copy restrictions and those are not going away any soon. Producing video is noticeably more expensive than producing audio only.


My contention is that everyone will use the social networking side of a mobile device if it is easy enough. A quick glance at your handheld will tell you (roughly ) where your friends are, what they're up to, whether they're interested in hanging out tonight...
I am not so sure, but I don't know. Maybe age-dependent.


Do you find that people want the contact list syncing thing for non-work purposes?
Yes. Keeping their contact list is a big problem for non-geeks.



As for video phoning, it is one of those applications that just has never taken off. I suspect we'll all want the option of video, but we'll rarely use it (except, well, in the situation you gave above ). I think as it gets easier to text message people, even voice communication will drop a bit. We're seeing that already on mobile phones.
People use text and voice for different purposes on mobile phones. I admit I don't quite understand it. Video has its uses, but I don't think that they are mobile uses. In any case, umts has included voice talk for a few years and it is rarely used, but voip or skype video appears to be used a lot more.



Again, this is one of those things that hasn't really taken off yet because it has too high a threshold. Recently, people started getting handed free newspapers at the station in the morning here in Vancouver, now suddenly the bus is full of people reading the newspaper (celebrity and sports news, mainly, but still). Before, I rarely saw people reading the paper on the bus.



I hope that we can get this worked out. I want to see people use less paper, and ubiquitous hand held devices with nice big easy-to-read screens seems like a good solution.

Many non-geeks do not want to read text on screen, period. Really. Even E-books went to the trouble of developing screens that look like paper, because that is a real problem. If you have not noticed that, I am pretty sure that you have not really observed non-geeks.

Well have to keep cutting trees. Get over it.



Threshold issue again. If you make it easy to share, store, view, and get prints of your photos and videos, and they're decent quality, everyone will be using it.
Nope. Some people take pictures, some people don't. Some people insist that pictures must be printed, period (paper again). Some will only show pictures after they have chosen some to glue in an album, for example.



That's very interesting. Online shopping while sitting on the bus... Why not? I think we'll see the web evolve to meet mobile needs when more people are using it from their handhelds.
It is not online shopping. Ebay has auctions, and those end at inconvenient times. Yet, the system is designed so that bidding at the latest possible time gives you an advantage. So Ebay users are tied to their desks at these inconvenient times. A portable ebay solves that. Ebay has a site for mobile phones, BTW.

Ebay is also a social site with discussion groups, but I do not think that this enters in the equation.
 

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