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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
See, but the people at Nokia who see this site don't need to be convinced—hey're already believers. The people who actually need to be convinced don't read itT. That's why it'll be more productive to take your complaining to customer channels where they're more likely to be paying attention. If you want to wear the customer hat, you need to go through customer channels.
They're just going to have to show me some proof of how much they believe in anything. So far, I'm two devices deep in disappointment. And complaining to their customer channels has gotten me a refurbished, badly flashed 770 with more scuff marks than my original, nearly new version I had sent them. But... after some time with it, it's still ticking. I did what they were unwilling to do... provide proper support.

I don't think you got what I said in the least, to be honest. I'll just kindly request that you go back and re-read it. I didn't use overly complex words nor structure on purpose. Simply stated, the community would like to make a grievance and request to be known... we'd like to remain supported in a manner that doesn't leave a 11 month purchase turn into a regret. That would mean that it would be nice, before the decision is made, that future iterations (where possible) would receive proper openness and support by the community; instead of the (seemingly) one-man show that was the Hacker Editions.

Sadly that's rarely the case, and it's certainly not the case in this particular thread as it's already started. Mostly it simply ends in flames, or it ends in people saying they're gonna do something productive, but nobody actually does (trust me, I've seen most of them).
And trust me; some things start out in outcry in order to voice an opinion. It's not the best way; that we can agree upon. Flames, nor bad attitudes make a community work or flourish.

I'd suggest both be taken serious by all.

qgil said it himself right here in this very thread, I'm not sure what there's not to believe. Nokia's certainly expressed their willingness to work with us.
There's a lot not to believe. I'm patient though. And keeping my 770 and N810. I will wait two generations for the next one; and make my decision then. As it stands, on this very day, Nokia will not be getting my money.

One opinion in a leviathan does not make me a believer; however I'll remain patient and open-minded.

Thanks for the kind conversation. I enjoy this better than the alternative