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Originally Posted by Johnx View Post
No, things started a while ago. Lots of people, inside and outside Nokia have been pushing to make a community supported distribution possible. If things change it will be because people communicate in a calm, rational way and collaborate to make change possible, not because someone complained on a message board.
I guess the parts where I said that I agreed that it's not the best way to get things done were overlooked - I'm not for a community filled with flames nor bad attitudes at all; nor do I wish to contribute to that. But it's also a way that things have gotten done.

The insides/outside discussion that's happening at Nokia; I'll wait to see what happens. If nothing; then expect truly disgruntled people - with praise for a past platform in tow.

If something good actually happens, expect happier people - with complaints in tow still perhaps.

Major feature upgrades aren't quite the same as "support."
Neither is fixing what's wrong now with an upcoming version that will not work on my already purchased machine.

Your warranty is still valid, and I'm sure they'll answer customer support calls. Nokia isn't the best in terms of supplying new software releases for old devices, but they're certainly not the worst.
Among the worst I've seen. And I can go back to vendors in the '70's.

On the other hand, you sent them the wrong message by spending money on an N810 after getting burned when they stopped supporting the 770.
Oh, we agree 100% here. However, after 8 times, over 8 hours of being on the phone; I could hope that my message was somewhat heard.

We are the community! You and me. Some of us are stepping up and looking at ways to get Fremantle on the N8x0 devices (hey, maybe some parts will run on the 770 even!). But the more people helping, the better. Nokia gave us the tools to help ourselves this time, and if we don't take advantage of those tools, I don't see this happening again. It's time for the community to step up and prove that supporting Open Source makes sense for a company.
Again, not one argument here. It's really along the lines of what I've been saying all along.

I understand where you're coming from, but it really illustrates a difference in being beholden to a commercial entity (Adobe's Flex) and having the possibility of taking things into your own hands (Nokia's Maemo). When people say "just deal with it" on this board they're (for the most part ) not saying "Shut up and take it," they're saying "Let's fix it!"
You know... the latter is only three words, whereas the former is four. I don't even have a skillset that probably would help outside of logic and/or concept - I've never lied while here, I'm a consumer first.

I'm still learning about Mer and the other offerings. Even waiting on Android on the 770 perhaps - which is still my preferred internet tablet.

Thanks for the wise words.