I don't understand not wanting to have a camera. Cameras are TINY! There is no weight concern. You have to carry a camera anyhow. Here is the choice: 1) 770 + phone + camera + scanner + fax/copier(with printer) 2) 870 I've been wanting to write a program that uses multiple passes of a web-cam to do high-res scanning and faxing/printer-copying. If the camera is of sufficient quality I'll probably take the plunge. Why have a separate (and not really portable) scanner/fax? I can take my entire office in my pocket unless I need scanning/faxing; then it's back to the luggable briefcase. YUCK! My wish list is: better processor (So audio/video doesn't ever skip) more memory (So I don't have to use expansion for software/VM; only for media) SD expansion (for all of my books, music, video, photos, scanned files, etc.) camera (3 to 5 mega pixels with internal optical zoom) data link (e.g., EDGE or WiMAX) powered USB (and USB charging). I would like a keyboard and better battery if they add no weight/size. (A built-in laser virtual keyboard would be amazing!) I would like software for PRINTING!, bluetooth steero/VOIP profiles, a USB monitor driver and my fax/scan software. The bottom line is I don't want to carry five devices and all their cables. Bruce