I respect that we have different tastes. Don't get me wrong, a refurb itouch from apple with 1yr warranty and 16gb storage is tempting at $230 or whatever they are now, but then i think about how much music I have, and it is automatically not a good choice as a music player. Then if i think about it as a computing device, and the kicker is the lack of any way to plug in useful things. If I could plug in a keyboard and a hard drive, then maybe I would think of getting one. To me it is really frustrating to have all these devices that come so close to meeting all my wildest computing dreams, and fit in my pocket, but fall short, not because it is not possible, but because they don't want to add very useful features. This is why I am hopeful for the next nokia device, because they have pushed off in the right direction and may just make the most useful device. Then again maybe not, or maybe it will cost more than the average moe can afford.