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This is why I voted for the school section to be seperate from the wiki.

To me, the difference between a wiki audience and newbie/ instructional audience is very large, because by necessity a wiki needs to be informative to a very general crowd and thus a higher level user than a "tablet newbie." No matter how basic its target audience is, in order to remain relevant to its general community, any tablet wiki will eventually get far more technical than a newbie crowd can (or should) be exposed to. You really are talking about two different audiences here, since -- if that wiki is going to be useful to newbie users -- then it will have all the mid- and advanced level information excised and banished to another place.

But that banishing is not what will happen, as mid- and advanced users eventually take things like "become root" for granted and will put that into the newbie wiki, forgetting how "become root" and "red pill mode" sounds like gibberish to a less advanced user/ newbie. So you're talking about two different wikis: a newbie/ instructional wiki and a community information repository wiki. They're not really compatible, especially since everything I've seen referring to the next device(s), Nokia intends for it to be more consumer-polished than the 770 or N8x0s, and so we'll be getting many more community members who have no idea -- and don't care or ever want to know -- what this "root" thing is, never mind knowing the difference between "gainroot vs. become root." This expected wave of willingly-permanently-less-advanced users, (perma-newbies sounds like a slap), will just end up asking in the general forum.

Best stated by mobiledivide in another post:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...5&postcount=45

"I think what I liked about Krisse's tutorials is that they seem more like a teaching tool rather than a help tool. Wiki seems to me more like an extended help menu. The way I see the Tabletschool is a way for a new purchaser who is NOT tech savvy ie. someone like my significant other who is smart but has no interest in "getting root" to do whatever she needs to do, to actually learn what all their tablet can do.
I would never tell her to go to wiki.maemo.org to learn how to use her tablet."
These are not stupid people, they just don't know much about the technical guts stuff, have no use for it, and never will. Why make them wade through techno-babble? Should they really be walled off into a section called "newbie wiki" merely because they don't care about linux kernels and gaining root via xterm and omgwhatinheckis red pill mode?

In reference to the suggestion of embedding or linking to instructional vids inside the wiki: merely embedding the videos/ links to into a wiki would just make newbies (or these expected newer/ shallower users) shy away and probably never enter into that part of the wiki which would be most useful for them, since they're wading through "gainroot" vs. "become root" vs. "red pill mode," etc., and because they'd have to wade through a lot of useless (to them) information to get to those video or link to the videos, eventually their eyes will glaze over and they'd just wade to something else, (or ask in the forum for the 1,883rd time).

Putting them in the wiki would, in essence, "hide" the exact help that newbies need.

When I got my tablet, thanks to tabletschool I went from "where's the ON switch?" to full useability (for what I wanted from the tablet at that time), -- and more -- in two days. My linux was rusty and I was able to get over the initial tablet-ownership hump and use the tablet for virtually everything I wanted to do before I had to refresh my linux memory. I remember thinking that this was just the way it should be for every device, and regret now not donating while possible at the time because all the time, thought and work put into that deserves reward. So though this is the wrong place, I'd like to thank Krisse for all the help he or she did me.



Joe

Last edited by Justjoe; 2009-05-02 at 15:08.
 

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