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Originally Posted by krisse View Post
Look, the way things stand, the Downloads page to me looks great. I would love to see Tablet School be laid out exactly like that.

The Wiki page, by contrast, looks awful. I would NOT want to see Tablet School laid out like that.
And, for the billionth time, no-one is suggesting that Maemo School shouldn't look like downloads!

All you are doing with this confrontation over the technical details is dissuading many of the people with the skills to help you deliver your requirements quickly from helping you. Hell, if you'd done as I suggested, and concentrated on coming to a consensus on your functional requirements, the first version could have been up and running this weekend. In a few hours.

Could someone explain to me why we couldn't just clone the Downloads section?
  • Because it's geared towards downloading applications, not embedding videos.
  • Because there's none of the workflow - nor the scope for it - that you want to ensure high quality tutorials which are well categorised.
  • Because it doesn't meet the desire that other people have that there's the option of a plain text transcription of the video, improvable and correctable by anyone (including its hiding if it's rubbish and written for the wrong level of user).
  • Because it's a midgard module and the number of people able to, or willing to, write or amend another is very very small.

There's been talk about what would be possible in theory, but let's look at what actually exists: Downloads looks very user-friendly, wiki does not.
We can make the wiki look like however you want: it's just images, layout and feeds. We can put any arbitrary HTML we like in the wiki, we can pull in RSS feeds and process them.

Quality control can be done by you, or a team, monitoring what gets put in "Category:Maemo School". If all the info for the index page is being sourced from a YouTube channel you control, doesn't that mean you completely control what appears? (I don't believe anyone can post a video to your YouTube channel).

If you're worried about people having to navigate through maemo.org to "Community" and then "Wiki", and then the wiki to a page labelled in little letters "Maemo School", then no-one is suggesting that either!

I think Maemo School is a fantastic idea. I think have good quality videos/screencasts is wonderful (although I like having the option of people transcribing them for those without the time/ability to watch a whole video - and to scan it to see if it delivers what they're trying to do). I think having a committed team of people ensuring the quality remains high is spot on.

I also think it'd be accessed by adding a "School" entry alongside "Intro", "Downloads", "Community", "Development", "News" and "Talk"; no matter what technology enables it.

Doesn't it make sense to just use whatever we already have if it works?
Downloads works and looks great for downloads. It's a great source of inspiration for the site you want. But it doesn't "work" for your use-case, as I outline above.
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