Many of us are are here initially because of the disorganization we encountered when we first visited the other available sites like Tableteer (no updates) Maemo.org (770 centric and in general disrepair) Nokia (releasing upgrades that broke existing apps and then going on vacation for 2 weeks or the repository fiasco prior to another 2 week holiday). During it all this was a place that was always open and where you could find other users with either a solution to your problems or a willingness to work together toward a common goal. As a result the community YOU provided a home to grew and florished and realy didn't need that much intervention. As a group we learned or were learning to get along Many of us now see this as a takeover by the very (lack of) organization that was responsible for driving us here in the first place. I suspect that the theme issue is not as big as the post and thread count may indicate but rather alot of this noise is a result of misplaced frustration over how this change has been handled. We who are in a very large majority are basicly being told that we now belong to a community who's fate direction and mission have already been discussed and determined by a smaller group of people who belong to various mailing lists. We chose not to join these mailing lists and as a result we must now play whatever hand that is dealt. ... If this is the communities forum; what's going on here and here ?