Yeah, 5 is still in the manipulative stage. Boys usually move past that after starting school.

Teen years are the dig-in-and-defy period. We had a nice little blowup about that in the Rat household just this morning. My 2 heathens do not yet grasp the concept of Mother's Day... and apparently the wrath they subsequently incur from dad has been worth it for years.

Let's see how that plays at 18. They've been warned.