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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
What are you discussing, really?
Well lots of things actually

And it takes lots of discussion and reading to learn. I think this is a great thread. GA did an awesome job on laying out what his role is and how he sees it. You added your perspective which cleared up a little more.
Originally Posted by qgil
Please tell what is your opiniom on this proposal made yesterday:



Open communication is one of the core values of the Community Council, both to serve as an example to Nokia and because it's the right thing to do. All communication is open by default.

* News and calls for participation are summarized in the Council blog (RSS).
How will integration of "Council Blog" happen with the forums and mailing lists to be one form of communication?
(Additionally I wish it could be called "Council News" Blog indicates opinion, although council members are voted in for their opinions, something rubs me the wrong way about it, perhaps another thread, another day )
* Council micro-updates can be followed at [new thread to be created in this forum] (watch)
I think this should be a forum section, with multiple topics
* Council oriented conversation happens in the maemo.org Talk forum (archive) and the maemo-community mailing list (archive), in threads identified with the [Council] tag.
I assume this will change once integration happens
* Also, Council members are usually present over IRC in #maemo, happy to chat with you.
Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Council members, fans and discontents, does anybody disagree on this? Any ideas for improvement?

One day this maemo.org forum here and the maemo-community list there will be just the same. Different instances and interfaces of a same communication channel.

Anybody against this? If not please support Reggie in this work (e.g. not bothering him about anything else if you think such task is the most important in his plate).
Originally Posted by penguinbait
Great so why are we debating this? Please can you identify how this will happen, who the players are? is it just Reggie? What technical hurdles are involved and do we expertise within the community to help move this forward? These are the things I want to hear, and if they are happening, how can we give greater visibility to these type of things to help them get accomplished faster?
Originally Posted by GA
No, because beyond the intention to do it the technical details have not yet been hashed out.
GA's response did not indicate much was already going on this topic. Can you answer any of my questions above?

Originally Posted by qgil View Post
Before this integration happens maemo.org forum and mailing list users are expected to be equally informed by the council about what is relevant and what requires actions. The council blog is the place for that. If there are active announcements they should be made both in the forum and the mailing list. People willing to start a discussion about a council related topic will do it from the place he likes better. It's the responsibility of the council to call for a wider debate if the topic deserves it.

This means that a forum user doesn't need to subscribe to a mailing list unless he wants to follow certain topics more closely. And this means that a mailing list user doesn't need to follow a forum unless he wants to watch certain topics more closely. There are also third ways useful for the time being: mailing list addicts can subscribe to threads to receive email notifications, forum addicts can go to http://n2.nabble.com/maemo-community...-f2589537.html and browse/post at will.

Does anybody disagree on this? Any ideas for improvement?

The whole chat debate is quite irrelevant, honestly. There is simply not a relevant amount of council related discussions there. Scheduled meetings are another story: they should be announced in advance, everybody should be able to join (via pure IRC or things like http://mibbit.com ) and the minutes and logs should be published.

Does anybody disagree on this? Any ideas for improvement?

Please don't get stuck in the little stones when all our hands are needed to move the big obstacles away.
The chat debate isn't really only for council activities, it's just for access to #maemo or #maemo-meetings for logged in users. If the community does not want to support this, OK, but open communication is never a bad thing, and I think we really need to strive for over-communication. I would like to see perhaps a quarterly all hands meeting run by council in #maemo-meeting, where some BS feel good news topics can be discussed. Perhaps thats another thread


Again, this has been a great thread,
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