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Originally Posted by chakotay_da_silver View Post
EXACTLY. You need an adapter, you need to do OTHER stuff that average user is not going to do. You're still in "im a linux supergeek" mode..
Needing an physical adapter is "supergeek"? Frankly, that may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

So, those consumer devices that let you plug an Express Card into a USB slot ... that's "supergeek", even though some wireless ISPs use them as standard equipment for use with their wireless cards?

Or, those business people who do international travel, and use power adapters for their laptops... according to you, they're no longer "corporate suite" types? Even though they know next to nothing about geek topics, they're now "supergeeks" because they have physical adapters on their electronic gear?

No.. UMPC does NOT = "can install windows on it" mate, (wrong answer buzzer button on a game show)

UMPC stands for Ultra Mobile Personal Computer
And, it's a phrase coined by a joint team of Intel, Microsoft, and Samsung, to refer to a particular class and generation of devices which, not very coincidentally, specifically use x86 hardware and the Windows OS. Further, they have a particular size and performance profile (8" and 7" screens).

The more generic term (both in terms of size, CPU, and OS), which also includes Linux devices, is MID (also coined by Intel, and later clarified by Intel to be a super-set of the both the UMPC and netbook markets).

Even if you want to go with the more casual use of the terms, UMPCs are regarded as larger devices than MIDs. Again, UMPCs have 7" - 9" screens, are not aimed at the pocketable market, and attempt to be desktop replacement types devices (running desktop OSes, in desktop user interface configurations). Smaller than that, and more optimized around being pocketable devices, are the MID and/or smartphone markets (depending on the device's exact capabilities).

it IS a umpc dawg. it IS.. just from the early 90s or whatever.. it's almost as good as my very first DESKTOP PC which was literally (rough cubic inches calculation) around 750 TIMES LARGER THAN THIS THING... and only a TINY...TINY bit more powerful, mate

(it was one of those tower-on-its-side gateway pc's.. 450Mhz hahah BUT it did have graphics u see, 5GB HD, lolz!)
Welcome to the tradeoffs of the mobile market. Smaller, lighter, cooler, longer (battery life) == slower. Period. If you want to increase the speed, you have to give up one or more of the other factors.

And, the Nokia NIT platform is not considered by the mobile market at large (not even by the windows oriented faction) to be a "dawg", they're considered to be one of the market leaders. They were the first MID on the scene, they have one of the best mobile UI's on the scene, etc.. Perfect? no. "dawg"? Not even close.

Compare it to your beloved UMPC market, where the CPU's predate the Atom (such as the Samsung Q1 Ultra), and you're looking at devices that are actually SLOWER than the NIT overall (more MHz, but still slower devices), and have half the battery life ... at best. Yet, they also weigh 2-4 times as much, and have UI's that aren't even closed to optimized for the mobile market (most of them are just running the desktop XP or Vista environment, unmodified).

From there, if you want a device with one of the faster Atom processors, you're most likely going to be carrying around a heat generating battery sucking device that either has a battery bigger than the NIT itself, or has a pitiful battery life (or both).

If you want to keep trying to argue this, you might want to do a bit more research on the topic. If there's one thing you've made clear, it's that you don't know have even half a clue about what you're talking about.
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