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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
. . . or so Nokia claims, although I've seen no evidence of them actually working.


So all four times that I have updated my 5800 by OTA, I was actually hallucinating?

How is it then that I've constantly had the latest firmware on my 5800, despite never flashing it with a computer?


How do you do this direct from the phone ?
I reflashed it with PC Suite (in a VMware session of XP under Kubuntu ;-) )
It's pretty much the same as the tablets, though there's no automatic alert about updates being available. You can flash it with Windows if you want, or you can download the updates directly onto the device. Flashing via a PC tends to be traditionally more reliable than OTA in theory, but I haven't had any problems with OTA updates on the 5800 so far.

Here's a tutorial on firmware updates I wrote for All About Symbian:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/featu...pressMusic.php

...but if you want it in a nutshell, dial *#0000# from the main standby screen, then use the options menu to check for updates.

The same menu can be reached through the Settings section (Settings > Phone > Phone Management > Device Updates).


I will try it I am just used to the Qstarz BT GPS as it is very good and even fixes indoors.
The 5800 will fix indoors too as long as you're in a room with windows. Having a SIM card in also helps because it will be able to use both AGPS and phone mast positioning.

I can't compare the two directly because I don't own a separate GPS unit, but the 5800's built-in GPS is a whole lot better than the N810's.

(In fact all of Nokia's phones have much better GPS than the N810, the N810 must be the worst GPS device that Nokia have ever made.)



OTA firmware updates are much the same: They might work if you're lucky, but there's the same chance that they don't:
There have been four updates so far, and I've used OTA updating four times successfully.

I have never had an OTA update fail.


OTA will tell you there's no update available when in fact there is one. You'll still need the windows-software for reliable operation.
Sometimes it takes longer for an update to appear on OTA, but most ordinary users don't care about getting an update the same day it is issued.

And I wouldn't call that a reliability issue, because once the update becomes available through OTA it continues to be available.

Also bear in mind that firmware rollouts on phones are much more complex than on the tablets, because phones have many dozens of firmware variations for different countries and network-locked variants.

Last edited by krisse; 2009-05-17 at 11:26.