Good points!

- Maemo brand: I agree that grassroots contributors and actually most humans on Earth shouldn't care much about branding and even less about correctness on brands. And I'm saying this as one of the Nokia employees responsible of keeping the Maemo brand clean. So please, don't argue about this. It's true that Nokia is the "external controller" of the Maemo brand but Nokia didn't make the maemo.org logo, nor decided the maemo.org layout and is not enforcing everybody to use proper capitalization on day to day communications (if you come up with a banner for a conference that says "maemo" we will remind you that it is either "maemo.org" or "Maemo" depending on what you want to say, yes).

- About the Talk colors, hopefully the issue is settled now. Right, the process of the new colors was open and democratic, only happening in maemo.org and not directly in ITt. Still... how democratic were the previous designs made by Reggie? Which brings to the next point.

- Conspiracy? Many people in this loud segment of top posters seem not to believe that maemo.org has gone really off the control of Nokia. It has. If the Maemo community doesn't revamp this afternoon the whole contebnt of the website is because you don't feel the ned or you prefer to do other things. This will come clearer with the release of maemo.nokia.com and the Maemo 5 developer pages in Forum Nokia, but this is also tied to the Hunger problem (the release of those sites come together with the release of new software).