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Originally Posted by geneven View Post
The expression would have "hackles" being raised, not "heckles," though heckles are funnier.
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The full story seems to me to be that ITT had to die because internet tablets themselves are being phased out by Nokia. So Reggie would support this takeover by maemo.org because it keeps the support of Nokia.
Given that Nokia didn't financially support ITT directly (there have been some links to internettablettalk.com on various Nokia properties like Tableteer IIRC), the "keeps the support of Nokia" makes it sound like there was some kind of threat made to Reggie. From the discussions I saw, I don't think that was the case.

That doesn't mean the change gets the support of members of ITT, however. They still want internet tablets, made by Nokia or not.
I believe the rationale went something like this: "Nokia have announced they are deprecating the 'internet tablet' moniker and the next device is expected to be "more mainstream" - to prepare for an influx of users, let Nokia pay the bills and move to heal a schism [which has become even more apparent] between "ITT users" and "maemo.org users [even if they're a massively overlapping set]".

But you'd have to ask Reggie.

The democratic way to make the change would have been to have some sort of election on ITT itself, not on maemo.org. Maemo.org's rules about karma are not the problem of ITT members.
Sorry, I'm not sure what "the change" is here? The change by Reggie to let Nokia pay the bills, and move to talk.maemo.org? The changes in forum structure, which seemed to have caused some controversy? The appointment of moderators? The changes in karma requirements for council elections? Something else?

And "election" meaning "council election"? It'd seem odd to have an election to represent the maemo.org community to Nokia take place on an - at the time - unaffiliated, third-party, web forum.

As for the "not relevant" bit:
  1. Since Reggie announced that ITT would become tmo, maemo.org's karma rules are relevant at some level.
  2. maemo.org's karma rules are used for pretty much two reasons: council elections and - possibly - feeding into device programmes. The latter hasn't been used yet (but was mentioned when karma was first introduced)

Disclaimer: These are personal opinions. They aren't trying to stifle debate; shoot anyone down or manipulate the stock market. Challenging statements != personal attack.
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