I agree the N810's browser is much much better, but it's also a physically enormous device which was extremely expensive when it launched.

The 5800 has launched for about 250-300 euros plus taxes (depending on where you buy it) which is close to half the price that the N810 launched for. You don't mention price in the pros and cons, yet the price is precisely what makes the 5800 so significant.

The 5800's music playback quality is also a lot better than the N810s, like I said in the other thread GSM Arena quoted it as having one of the highest scores they'd ever seen in sound quality tests. That's why it's called XpressMusic, it's aimed at people who want to listen to music.

Hopefully the upcoming Maemo device will combine the phone features and small size of the 5800 with the high quality computing platform of Maemo. The new Maemo device probably won't be cheap, but at least it should be giving us the best of both worlds in hardware terms.


It sounds like you don't have the 5800's GPS set up correctly. The N810's GPS is much much much worse than the 5800's.

GPS on the 5800 actually works very well for me, and it's worked well for everyone on the All About Symbian staff in various parts of the world.

If you have the A-GPS working (i.e. with the correct positioning server entered into the settings section), the phone's clock synchronised to your phone network clock, and you have a SIM card in the slot, the 5800 should give a rough position estimate instantly (through phone mast positioning) and a satellite lock within about 30 seconds. It works for me within 30 seconds even when I'm indoors, as long as there are windows in the room.

The N810 GPS usually never locks for me even when I'm outdoors, and if it does lock it takes many minutes. I have never had any use from the N810's GPS, whereas I use my 5800's GPS all the time (and I know it works because I geotag my photos and they are virtually all correctly geotagged).