So, over in the Competitors forum, I just posted about 3 XP based phones, that all appear to be in the 4"-5" screen size, and have a lot of the features _I_ would want in a Maemo phone (multiple USB ports, video out, dpad, 4 row keyboards with dedicated number keys or 5 row keyboards, tilt screen, etc.). All in sizes as big, or a little bigger, than an N800/N810. It would be nice to see Nokia do something along those lines. Slightly bigger than an N810, dpad, 5 row keyboard, tilting touch screen, USB host, USB client, some form of video out, phone, ARM based Maemo phone. I bet it could easily beat the specs and aesthetics of all 3 of the ones I posted about. But my main reason for posting about them (there or here) was: desktop OS device, phone, screen in the 4"-5" range. I thought it might make some of the 4"+ screen advocates feel a little vindication. :-)