Originally, itT wasn't even counted in the m.o Karma count. I think around the time of the first Council election, we (those of us conversing on the mailing lists and using the m.o wiki) opted to add itT into the count-mix in order to give users a chance to build up Karma so that they could vote in the election... Again, I could be wrong.

As for the community (be it in the forums or on the lists) contributing to some very successful (and exemplary) applications, you'll find no argument here. Like I said, we need to revisit the Karma counting methodology. In fact, on a slightly related note, you should see this (I should have linked to this earlier):

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ay/002505.html

Please feel free to contact Alexey and bring these issues up.

Btw, Karma is also a way that Nokia determines who might be elegible for developer discounts on new devices.

Tim