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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
People never provide input when input is requested, and then complain once a discussion is had and consensus is reached, but never bother to provide useful input once the issue is reopened. It wears thin very shortly.
Never? One of the lessons in this transcription was put in the end 'stop speaking in absolutes'.

To give you an example where community input worked: after the first election when it was pointed out the voting method was not ideal much feedback and discussion arose, alternatives were provided, including one with available code. Maybe there was too much discussion, but otherwise this was solved very well by the Council and the Community.

When you require useful input you can simply ask the person that by quoting them (or PMing them). Which you've been doing. If you keep that friendly then good job. Perhaps PM those people you've been missing now, or accept that they will read it later, or do not care (anymore). But have some patience, and then conclude.

In this discussion on IRC there was a lot of organisation/infrastructure discussion, and not everyone is good at such. There is also this saying 'no news is good news' which means that after you haven't received feedback (but did receive views and thanks) apparently people agree with you.

I believe also your task as Council is to keep into account the feedback you received which was valuable (no matter if you agreed on it) and keep that in mind during an IRC discussion like this. If you couldn't remember it, it was most likely not important enough.

Sometimes, even when you don't reach a goal you would wanted to reach you still did a fantastic job, even when someone else is #1 or you do not get that pet on your back.
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