By the way... Someone suggested that a "moderator" start another thread, which would be more appropriate. Why is a "moderator" needed to do this? Because you want the color of authority, someone making this thread end? Because I don't see why someone wanting to start a new thread couldn't just put a note here saying, "This interesting conversation seems more appropriately continued in a new thread, so I've continued it here" and giving directions to the new thread. For example, when someone in this thread suggested that I take a topic elsewhere, because the discussion was too heated, that is exactly what I did.