oh... so the claim that video editing has been removed on newer models is only half true: some models still have it, only in a slighty worse variation.

thank you for this information. (i have to admit i don't care enough about phones... i wouldn't know where to look or ask for this info outside this forum.)

now that they make something "simpler" is, of course, unfortunate, but still better than nothing.

the models i'd be interested in are the 6710 navigator and the 6720 classic. any info on these 2?

and: what exactly is "simpler"? i usually cut clips, add clips to a video, add still images to a video, add effects (fade to black etc) between clips of a video and finally sometimes reduce the size of the final video for MMS or mail transfer. - is this "simple" or does the simplified version lack any of these functions?

oh yes, and: is there any 3rd party video editor anyone could recommend? this is really something i'd pay for if it works.