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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
gerbick, thanks for trying to give business lessons to Nokia, TI and other partners involved in the hardware and software discussed in this thread. Still, there are a couple of details you should consider.
Thanks for hiding behind a vapid, nebulous term as "business decisions" when honestly you've answered absolutely nothing other than announce a non-announcement. Simply put, make something happen or otherwise this is yet another non-announcement and indicative of that nothing productive in terms of prior iterations of so-called future-proof hardware and OS sold under the guise of fully-opensource will yet be another notch in the belt of marketing promise and lacking delivery.

I'm quite sure that the quotes of "fully open" are quite remembered by those that found out it wasn't. Please start with considering that first. Sell a fake promise, deliver something years later.

Way to go.

- The hardware for graphics acceleration is there as part of a pack. It's not that Nokia puts it on purpose only to decide that will not be used. It doesn't make business sense to to remove that piece of hardware from the configuration.
I quite understand this. I remember that we had to support SGI 320 and 540's back in the day. They had a firewire connection that was essentially useless due to licensing and SGI just simply was not going to pay Apple their fee per machine for licensing. It was just part of the chipset that came on those motherboards.

Guess what? You didn't find Firewire support advertised. Can't say the same for Nokia's claims (see above).

- Nokia would need to pay for those drivers if they would be shipped as part of the product. It doesn't make business sense to do so when such drivers are not used by the OS and when assuring their commercial quality would add more cost.
And now they can be used by a dead OS that you've all but killed?

Even unsupported would have encouraged 2 years of tinkering in advance to when Nokia decided to pull support.

- Nokia doesn't own the drivers. It's not Nokia the company that is doing the nice move to provide in a way or another those drivers now to the community. It's TI and the partners involved that have the IPR and the resources to do the move.
This I understand. But where was this information when the machines were released?

If you want to complain about Fremantle not being compatible with OMAP2 devices that's fine, but this is not related to this thread and there are already others where this topic has been discussed.
I wish to complain about how you didn't announce any of this the day these machines came out and addressed it years later. Silence in this form for so long is misleading in quite a few ways.

When the next machine comes out; I'm quite sure you will have a few people wait and ask more educated questions that upon delivery of non-answers will result in a backlash of "Remember how they treated their prior customers..." due to prior claims made that were not followed through by Nokia.

Simply put, I hope that even you can understand that fully-opensource means just that. The N800/N810 were sold under that guise and it was a lie. My complaint is real, actual, and now louder due to revelations like this.

And my complaint is well inline with the rest of this thread. You just don't want to address it. And that's ok too... I understand that it doesn't quite fit into your connotation of "business sense".

And I know it never will.
 

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