Thread: Why Symbian OS is so not friendly at all? How is Maemo?
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2009-07-07 , 18:20
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Originally Posted by Architengi View Post
OK, sorry for not telling you my whole experience with Symbian.
<Yawn>, let us hear this sad, sad story...

I bought the N95 8G at Best Buy on a promotion - instead of $400 I paid last year $250 on a 3 year contract with $40/mnth plan. Without plan the N95 8G would cost $700. Anyways, because of the 3 yrs plan which costs me $480/year plus taxes, let's say $500/yr - the total cost is $1500 in 3 years for the plan and the subsidizing part of it for the cost of the phone. So total cost in 3 years is $1500 + $250 = $1750 the N95 phone + 3 yrs plan. Not cheap.
Ok, so you have been fleeced in a traditional American way. Instead of just buying the latest decent, reasonably cheap S60 phone on the Internet, you bought an overpriced "flagship device" and let the cellular company enroll you into "a plan". To add insult to the injury, N95 looks and feels like a brick.

Does anybody think a $700 symbian s60 v3.1 phone unsubsidized is a correct price
No. I am sure nobody does.

I don't get firmware updates
You do get firmware updates for N95, unlike me, not getting firmware updates for my E70.

if the Symbian just removes all my contacts
It does not, as long as you back up your personal data before a firmware upgrade or a hard reset. Haven't bothered to back up? Do not complain then.

loose all my paid ovi apps, loose all my N-Gage and Java paid apps?
Can't comment that, the first thing I do to a phone is delete all the "application store apps" and everything that looks even remotely like adware.

What happend with my Symbian s60 v3.1 phone?
Nothing did, most likely.

AppManager simply stopped working. Because AppManager simply put the message "Out of memory" whenever I pressed the Options left key (where is the menu to configure or remove the app)
This is most likely caused by config files corruption due to too many application installs/removals or failed installs. Ever turned your phone off while it was installing an application? That would cause such a problem. The solution is rather simple though:

1. Back up your personal data
2. Dial *#7370#
3. The phone will reboot, resetting all the configuration.

I re-installed the same firmaware I had on my N95 8G NAM (V 11.2.011 of 01-04-2008) because NO NEW firmware was vailable in more than an year and half. Keep in mind, this was the flagship Nokia phone before N97 comed out last month. So in one year and half, Nokia did not create any update on its flagship phone...
And what does it tell us? Let us call Captain Obvious to the rescue, should we? The good captain is saying that N95 is no longer the flagship device, N97 is! Ah, the horror! The suffering! Shouldn't have bought that "flagship device", should you?

Ok, I updated the phone with that firmware and surprise: all the contacts are lost, all the paid apps are lost. Thank you, Symbian and Nokia!
No backup - no personal data after upgrade or hard reset. Now you know.

For $700 you can buy 2 nice NetBooks, which do have service packs and nice OS update without loosing your contacts and paid apps.
Will you use both netbooks to call, one for each ear? =)

Or you can buy anything else in the phone market: iPhone, Pre, Google Android phones, which will not destroy everything on your phone during a simply PS patch installation.
Then why not buy one of these and go complain to an appropriate iPhone/Pre/Android forum?

Why the flagship phone Nokia N95 8G ($700) cannot get an upgrade from s60 v3.1 to s60 v3.2?
Because it is no longer the flagship phone. It is just an aging piece of silicon junk. Just like most other gadgets, including old iPods, the original iPhone, etc. You should have bought a cheaper and more practical phone, such as Nokia E51 for example, still going strong.

Why is deleting all the contacts and paid applications (which ovi don't let me install again, I have to pay once again) when you install a OS patch?
Backup your contacts. Do not buy crappy apps.

This is how Nokia and Symbian treats its customers? Be aware!
Ah, I guess we are all well aware here... But thanks for a helpful reminder.
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