@fms:

Yes It may be popular, It also is here but only since It is being offered almost for free on 24 month contracts and such..

Having said that, my point is not that 5800 or any other s60 5th is difficult to use, but awkward to say the least in many ocassions, i.e.: scrolling is inconsistent (upside down or downside up, depending on context), as is executing or activating (one or two clicks depending on where you are doing it).

With such flaws, or design principles, If it were not that we are talking about s60, I bet we would be laughing out loud at the developers of the OS... and I mean <b>loud</b>

As for responsiveness, I strongly disagree. The OS is not responsive to my taste, and this is not in comparison with any other thing or OS. It is just not responsive whenever you demand, a couple of heavy tasks, say, Maps and Internet. Yesterday I was looking for directions at Maps, with my picture gallery in the background. Suddenly the phone went to homescreen itself and froze for 3-4 seconds. Then, an incoming call appeared and (most funny of all) the phone began ringing with the default tone instead of the .mp3 I have configured, and after a couple of seconds the nokia tone began to sound slow-mo... Yeah, very responsive...

Regarding UI, I agree Texrat, by design It is separated, BUT.... As my own customers say, I ASSUME that things will work, and I EXPECT that the visuals are beautiful, and present the information resulting accordingly... The UI is the face of the OS, and an important part of its success or failure. We are talking about consumer oriented OS's here, not the VMS from the 80's

<quote>"If by "modern OS" you mean slick, responsive UI, it has nothing to do with the OS"</quote>

Oh well.... Let's go back to VMS or DOS then, It doesn't matter as long as It works, does it?....