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Originally Posted by sunwong View Post
I agree that the 5800 might be a commercial success on Europe, but IMHO and based on what I see as a reference (Spain data), Nokia does not lead the pack, It is Samsung with its Touchwiz in the mid-end (It is seen everywhere among the non-geeks), LG, RIM, and Apple offerings (again non-geeks but with deeper pockets), with HTC being marginal (WinMo really doesn't make it here).
In Russia, the RIM is non-existant, iPhone has been fashionable once but has since receded, lots of LG and Samsung feature phones, but the smartphone market is divided between Nokia and WinMo, with Nokia seemingly leading.

Fact is that Nokia is still making its commercial results stand against competition with models that noone will want in 6 months (non-touch, s603rd).
Really? People are buying S60e3 phones just like they had before. You are forgetting that most people buy phones to use them not to marvel at the latest and greatest technologies. And button-based S60e3 phones satisfy the usability requirements pretty well.

Seems that nobody tested this functionality with a text longer than some concat SMSs, either, because I can tell you that It was nightmare, It even came to a point where all the text dissapeared and I thought that the last 10 minutes of work in the post were gone...
Well, the screen estate is limited. You can either use it to show a decently sized keyboard or you can use it to show more of what you are typing. Luckily, Nokia provides both options in 5800. All you had to do was switch from the full screen keyboard to the small floating keyboard and click it with a stylus. Still not quite as good as using a real keyboard, but you have just disregarded those button-based S60e3 phones in the previous paragraph, haven't you?

Have you tried to use Maps and browse web at the same time? The thing randomly asks you to shut down 3G connections...
I have, and have not encountered any problems. Do not have 3G here though.

Doesn't "true multitasking" imply that I can reuse existing open connections, or at least allow for any number of them?
You can. I think you have simply misconfigured your cellular data connection so that it shuts down after a period of inactivity, to save power and money. All you have to do is go to Settings and set "Disconnect after" time to 0 or "none".

Or maybe the random shutdowns of the builtin browser when loading heavy pages, which Opera Mini also experiences.
Most likely running out of memory. Again, this is not a desktop computer, and a lot of current web pages seem to require that.

Or the annoying bug I currently am suffering with the onscreen buttons while on a call, that won't let you touch any of them unless you "unlock" the device for a second time
Never seen this one.

Anyhow, If these gadgets are advertised as mini computers, no? So what's the point of spending a small fortune on them if there are so many "not intended usage case"...?
I do not think Nokia's marketing department is talking to their engineering department. But that is normal for corporations

Last edited by fms; 2009-08-07 at 08:28.