While we are a community, we are not yet a full-fledged coding community.

Something else I'm going to present in my speech:

corporation-------------------community---------------------lone coders
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coding for $$$----team coding with self-management----WYSIWYG

It's hard to get the full point across in these posts but you basically have the 3 categories of coding above. We have developed into a community, but coding efforts by and large have not matured along with other communal activities (like yakking ). We are not Ubuntu or Debian... but IMO that's where we need to be. Right now we are stuck between "community" and "lone coder".

We've already hashed and rehashed ad nauseum over the things that got us to this uncomfortable limbo and it's time to move past that and toward solutions. Again, I will cover this in my presentation but I have also posed the necessary questions in my thread on the subject. Please feel free to offer opinions there on what we can do to move forward.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30644&page=3