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Serbia will catch up eventually; just a bit slower than most of Europe I found there were tons of open WiFi APs as well.

Originally Posted by luca View Post
I'm sorry but Vodafone and "unlimited internet" cannot appear together in the same sentence.
if "Fair usage" means "strictly limited to 1G, no voip, no instant messaging, no whatever we don't like today", isn't really unlimited, is it?
It is called Vodafone Zorgeloos Online here ('without worries online'), and the FUP means that you're not allowed to use 10x as much as the average person. But I know cable corporations here who apply the same. In its essence it is fair 99% of the customers do not pay extra for 1% of the heavy users. But the secrecy surrounding it I don't like. IM is allowed as it seems (also read earlier quote). Not being allowed X can be circumvented with VPN (except this increaes latency), and I'd like to see such tried in court. I don't think it will hold any legal bearing. Look at Apple pooping its pampers for FCC saying they're still 'reviewing' Google Voice. The argument against Skype is that is uses a lot of P2P data traffic. If that is true, I can follow the reasoning. It means a Skype user is not giving the mobile telco any direct profit while DoSing the rest of the users. That is not the behaviour you want on your network.

IMO the secrecy and disallowing certain services should be made illegal by law, while customers pay more precisely what they pay for/use without worrying.

Remember back in the days how expensive always-on leased lines were. If you had some kind of all-you-can-eat subscription your employer pays for then they cut a deal for X subscriptions. They certainly pay for the data you use one way or another. Perhaps they apply the 10x as much as average to the rest of corporate users of the deal. So if your colleagues burn tons of GB as well you can be sure they will calculate that in the lunch. TANSTAAFL 101.

I get max HSDPA with my E71 as well, but I still have a FUP. Here you can get all-you-can-eat subscriptions with lower max speed. You can also get strict MB bundles. T-Mobile even has web'n'walk with good speed until you get over 1 GB or sth after which you get heavily capped. Or you can buy an iPhone (or corporate bundle) with a so-called unlimited usage. But you pay a lot for that subscription every month; there the limit is your wallet. There is always a catch, a limit, somewhere!

A compare with 56k6 goes moot because those weren't flat-free and had different speed. Dial-up is more akin to how cellphones usage was a few years ago: low speed, non-flat free, for things like WAP.

What we have mostly (with countries such as Serbia still catching up to this trend) is an always-on, national covered network which you can use for certain ordinary tasks most people do on the Internet (e-mail, news, social networking, IM, maps, youtube) with exception of heavy bandwidth things like downloading a DVD or latency related things like FPS game. I say national because for it to be usable international the prices are too high.
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