Nokia is one of biggest mobile producer in the world.... so i assume they know the differences. The only reason they may not have agreed to the carriers in the US is that they don't want their higher end devices crippled. If the 5800 was subsidised in the US i bet it would sell more than the iphone because it is way cheaper. Same goes with n95-8gb, hell even the n97 would have sold a lot.... but i think nokia is really pushing for a free market even at the expense of losing market share.