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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Listen or obey ?
That's a pretty lame response. You underestimate the Symbian users, and you and some of the others in this forum need to decide if you want to remain a nich market of a few hundred thousand or tens of millions. You came off like a jerk, though I doubt you intended to. I've merely stated that one handed operation and ASR in the UI will be something most users will expect. We've already been without it, and now that we've had it, we don't want to go backwards.

I get the impression Maemo users and developers are aloof and don't really want the Symbian guys here, but without us, you won't remain a relevant OS. Maemo and Symbian have more in common than many expect, and it could possibly continue to be the mobile standard for hand computing.

You should think of what's best for Maemo and hand computing as a whole. ASR is one feature, and it will help millions enjoy and maximize the OS. Its a good thing, and no one is making you add it. I just thought this thread was about explaining how it can be helpful. Plenty of evidence has been submitted. Should we ignore that evidence? You certainly can, but I bet RIM, Android, Microsoft, WebOS, LiMo, and Apple won't for too long. They've already poached enough features to be attractive. Will Maemo follow or lead?

Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
I've done that, every night for months with my third child. She lay on the Boppy in my lap, my right hand held the bottle, and my left held and used my N800. I browsed the web, checked email, and read RSS feeds. So, that's one-handed use of a landscape device that is "friggin' huuuuge" compared to the N900.
Would you say it was as easy as using it with two hands? For S60, the experience for most touch apps is no different in portrait or landscape. With the size of the N8xx, I doubt it was easy or enjoyable. Also, does the UI of the N8xx have ASR? I don't have any experience with that device. But I expect it wasn't an enjoyable experience, and without that baby, you'd relieve yourself using another hand. And I doubt you'd compare the one handed usage of the N97 to the N800 regardless of size. As long as the data on the screen is not rotated, its just a workaround, and the fact you try to use it one handed is proof there is a need for ASR in the UI. I hope you agree.

Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Nokia hasn't killed Symbian. It's still there, being developed. If Maemo 5 doesn't suit you, you don't have to buy a device that uses it.
You have alot of nerve, audacity, even! That's the second time I've had to listen to an a..hole today. I see the M in Maemo isn't for "manners", but I guess the web has spawned the age of disrespectful cowardly men, brave enough to speak to real men in a manner they'd never choose in a face to face conversation. I'll keep my gloves off, but I gotta put you in check a little.

I've made my device choices on my own for years now. I'm well aware of the Symbian OS development, and intend to continue its usage from a personal standpoint. I'm here as an advocate of mobilism, and thought our input here would help in an open source ecosystem, where ideas are supposed to be implemented if they help make the platform easier to use.

I'll continue to use what I please, no matter how much you like it, and if I see areas I can contribute to its improvement, I'll do just that. No one said I HAD to buy anything, just like I don't HAVE to listen to you, either. You're free to reply to any comments I make, but you will respect me, and I'll choose to ignore idiots like you that only have their own interests at heart.

I'm here as a promoter, and want Maemo to appeal to as many people as possible. If one of those people is you, great! If you're already happy with Maemo, great as well! I'm not, just as I wasn't in Symbian's case all of the time. I speak for users that want more out of their device. If you don't, just shut up, play wallflower, and let the innovators do our thing.

I pay full price for 90% of my devices, and get $0 for my participation in the Symbian and Maemo communities. I'm here because I love mobiles and mobilism. Why are you here? To stifle innovation and progression? I won't invite you to an Apple forum, but you might fit well. Pick your own device, and worry about you. I got this, bro.
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Last edited by christexaport; 2009-09-13 at 18:29.