smog, most of the iphone's apps suck and are useless novelties. the ipod touch gains on the N8xx because it has a pocketable size and a telephony capability. Both have an "app store", just app manager is all free apps.

Look at the iPhone apps compared to Symbian apps. There is more useful apps for Symbian imo, and Maemo seems far ahead of both. As for the community, its just the American devs. Had the iPHone been in China and Russia where the real devs are (No offense, US and UK devs), you'd see more good apps. Watch how fast all the devs switch in the next couple years to the Nokia device portfolio.