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Originally Posted by christexaport View Post
I just thought this thread was about explaining how it can be helpful. Plenty of evidence has been submitted.
Indeed it has, and I don't think anyone is arguing that more universal portrait support, when it comes, will be a negative development for Maemo. However, Fremantle won't bring it, at least initially, as that would have delayed its release by (a probably roughly estimated) six to twelve months.

That further delay would have left maemo.org something like a ghost town, and killed any momentum Nokia has built with the tablets.

On the other hand, it's clear Nokia has heard the demand for better portrait support here and elsewhere. They've dropped strong hints that Harmattan is the place for that, but they've also hinted that they'll be investigating what can be done to add better support to Fremantle down the line, through SSUs.

Would you say it was as easy as using it with two hands?
Certainly not. I only mentioned I'd done it as someone, possibly you, stated it wasn't feasible.

...does the UI of the N8xx have ASR?
I apologize, but I'm unfamiliar with the term, and none of the top Google hits make sense in context.

I doubt you'd compare the one handed usage of the N97 to the N800 regardless of size.
I've never seen, much less used, an N97. In fact, the only Symbian devices I've ever seen (beyond Internet photos) were in the Nokia store in Heathrow. I should have stopped to look at one, but, well, I've never been interested in phones.

You have alot of nerve, audacity, even! That's the second time I've had to listen to an a..hole today. I see the M in Maemo isn't for "manners", but I guess the web has spawned the age of disrespectful cowardly men, brave enough to speak to real men in a manner they'd never choose in a face to face conversation. I'll keep my gloves off, but I gotta put you in check a little.
I apologize for offending you. I had thought that "Don't buy what doesn't suit your needs" was a fairly innocuous statement, but I clearly need to rethink that.

You've presented yourself here as a pillar of the Symbian community, a well respected voice of knowledge there, and one who, through his insightful and well researched articles, provides valued recommendations to the Symbian user base. I've no reason to doubt any of that, so I've accepted you at face value.

You've also said you know the Symbian users, and they will not accept Maemo 5, as is, without universal portrait support. I have no reason to doubt your knowledge, so I accept this too.

It was with these givens in mind that I made my, I'm sorry to say, offensive statement. For now at least, Fremantle does not have what Symbian users need. However, as you say, they take portrait support such for granted that they might never think to question its existence in another OS. You're in a position to educate them on the issue and explain that, for those who need more portrait support than Fremantle brings, sticking with Symbian may be the wisest choice, at least for the time being.

There's no time left for Nokia to make fundamental changes to Maemo 5 now, and the delay required for inserting such would be too large to be beneficial. So while we can attempt to assist the Maemo developers and mangers by proposing select, priority pieces for possible, future "portraitization", having Symbian users (or others) show up simply decrying Maemo 5 for its lack of portrait support isn't productive. Please note I'm not denying that universal portrait support would help Maemo 5 and the N900 succeed in the marketplace. I'm sure it would. I'm simply pointing out what is, and how we can move forward productively.
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