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	allnameswereout	2009-09-14 , 22:35
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Originally Posted by christexaport

I should point out that Symbian Freak is my home, but I write for various mobile sites, and don't bite my tongue with my dislike for the iPhone/iPod propaganda.

That is OK, but flaming isn't for that does not contribute to create an objective state of positive and negative aspects in the compare. People who are interested in compares between N900 and iPhone 3GS want some kind of honest, informative compare. Honest disgust/hate or misinformation has no place. It only serves as noise.

They don't want to read nonsense from Maemo, S60 or iPhoneOS zealots!

And my assessment of iPhone apps is firsthand. I've used most smartphones in some capacity via reviews and personal trials. I think most of the iPhone apps are gap fillers covering up the touted but crippled browser. I've long said that a full featured browser would eliminate the need for most of the apps, ie. Facebook and twitter apps, etc.

So, you'd say, the same is true for Android? The problem is that almost no website is optimized for mobile usage (some were for WAP, T9, and iPhone but thats it). This will not change unless we have some goddamn standards. But I think its better to spew the data out abstract, and let the viewer deal with how to show it. Exactly what iPhoneOS does. These applications serve as abstraction layer, and they're necessary. Heck, I some of such apps on S60 too. And Qt4 and web (HTML5) will do the very same for S60 & Maemo.

While a good browser would negate the necessity somewhat it is not able to beat the (almost) perfect interfaces of stand-alone applications. Also, one would not crash the whole browser. And, for now, we're still bound to Ovi Maps stand alone because ithe online version is IE only

Personally, I've also uncrippled my browser on iPod touch. And got mulitasking on it as well. The point here is not to hail any product though (as you read in my first paragraph). We don't need hailers in this thread they can go to some pub on t.m.o and whine there. We want to understand the positive and ngative aspects of devices (hardware & software wise).

But I didn't intend nor wish to discuss the iPHone today, but phones in general.

Well, uhhh... the subject of this thread is...

It is usually the first mentioned, so I mentioned it to relate to the group. I know of many useful apps, but twice as many "shake the boob", "lighter flame", "mirror" (which is also on S60, sadly, and "ifart" apps. I'd say they have many apps to make things easier and faster, but I bet multitasking would do more for that than any app.

I don't know these useless applications! I never tried them! Not one! I read for example iphoneclub.nl, which has useful applications reviewed and tested. If it is in my interest I install it. To compare, there are websites dedicated to my phone too (Nokia E71) albeit less informative, and far less applications out there such as the one I described.

And I think calling the N8xx pocketable is pushing it. I don't see many coming out of pockets, and all I hear is 'its too big for a phone". But I'd like a phone that size tbo.

Yes, you need deep pockets

lets just say you don't need a bag to transfer it whereas a netbook would never fit in your pocket. So it is pocketable, just too big for a certain % of users.

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