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Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat View Post
@chris

I must just be a very easy person to get along with.
...that you are. I thank you for it.

This forum / community was very welcoming to me, and has managed to help me with all of my problems.

I have a hard time believing that your users urged you to start a forum in response to how unfriendly / unhelpful this one was.
It wasn't all so much the rudeness as the lack of focus on the users, especially those that are new to linux and maemo but talented developers nonetheless. There is much interest in the N900, and it could easily become a phenomenon. We just extended our old forums to give them a temporary home for now. Too many complaints. Many of our members or VERY young talented hackers and coders. I'd hate to see 15 and 16 year olds subjected to this type of environment. But I have faith things will improve. I've noticed some of the old heads pointing out the same issues, so the leadership is there.

I think the regulars around here are great. In fact, there's only a very small handful of members that, when asked, I would say are jerks
so true

Also, mind you, I know far less about mobile devices than you do, of that I am sure.
Don't assume. Neither of us has used the N900 extensively, so we're both neophytes in that regard.

I just don't get the negative generalizations made about this community (most, it seems, from contributors to other tech sites)...
I'm too lazy for links right now, but yourself and ricky cadden to name two off the top of my head. (Not trying to start any sh*t, but it happened).

I'm just an end-user. But, I feel like I'm part of this community, and I try to help people with problems whenever I can (until I find a job anyway). So, by calling the community unhelpful or unfriendly, you are calling me unhelpful and unfriendly. And that hurts.
I think if the same sentiment is repeated by more than just me, perhaps there's something to what we're saying. I think its a matter of many of us coming from the Symbian world, having to hack and pwn our devices to get part of the versatility Maemoans enjoy daily. That open nature is taken for granted, as is the ability to write code and improve a device on your own, something that takes lots of education, practice, and skill.

Ricky Cadden is a great advocate for mobiles, and he lives near me. There's a reason he and others are the first to get called when new devices come around. The Symbian community is alot closer knit and helpful towards one another, and Maemo is a shock to the system in that light. We're all just learning to adjust, and we will in due time. The growing pains are just a little hard to bear.

You are a helpful person, and not all of this forum's members are a problem. Most aren't. But a bad apple can spoil the bunch. But good apples can influence the bad. Just keep being that good example. You and others are the reason I'm still here. I just have to learn patience. Things will improve, because I'm here to help it happen.
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