I don't quite get how being challenged to evolve leads to whining, but I just think that if you're not happy with something you should: 1). Fix it yourself if you can. 2). If you can't, then find someone who can and work together with them to address the problem. #2 seems simple, but as you can see from the past few days it's not as straightforward as it seems. There are positive ways to do this and there definitely are negative ways to do it. The negative ones vary a lot.. let me give you a few examples: - Annoy or harass others, so they will do your bidding to make you stop. This is essentially the same concept that a child exerts when they whine, hence the term. In a forum, it can be seen when someone keeps talking about the same issue again and again in multiple threads. - Intimidate others by saying things like "I'm gonna slap\punch someone if I'm in the same room as them"