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Originally Posted by volt View Post
A journalist, any journalist, that is protecting his sources, will keep protecting his sources nomatter how many times you ask him. This is not rocket science. This is simple journalistic rule of thumb, and if Eldar breaks this confidence, he will not be able to keep doing what he's doing for very long.
Why do you call Eldar a journalist? Journalism is a profession. A journalist researches a topic and writes about this accurately while not holding back relevant information. If he cannot provide certain vital information (e.g. to protect source) then such is clearly stated. Full disclosure.

A journalist indeed protects his informants. Fully agreed. But the relevance of that differs. As I stated previously I do have respect for whistleblowers, and gave Deep Throat as example. But come on. Lets not compare this event to whistleblowing. Impact and purpose are totally different! A whistleblower has no primary financial/commercial gain; primary reasons are of ethical substance. Such is not the case here. Speaking of Java here an examples where such was the case: Willem Oltmans; career destroyed by Dutch government, Paul van Buitenen; EU example of whistleblowing. Compare does not even come close!!

Assuming we can call Eldar a journalist (I don't know his profession) that'd mean he wouldn't describe from who he got the device whereas what happens is that he withholds vital information such as firmware version. There is also something as collaborating to a crime. For example, if your friend robs a bank, and you wait for him and you drive him in your taxi around you are going to be suspected of a crime too. As with here you cannot simply say "didn't know where he got that from". You know full well it is not possible to get such device via official channels, and you knew full well nobody reviewed the device because it isn't allowed to do so.

Now, why are we not allowed to clearly state and warn such vital information is missing in each and every case it potentially matters? Nowhere do i see him state that when he speaks of the device. This gives me the impression he doesn't care much for accuracy. I just read his Twitter today where he says "no voice recognition or java, forget about it". The latter is inaccurate. Am I then not allowed to point to the inaccuracy? You can praise the deeds of the alleged journalist. I don't because I don't feel his contribution is as positive as it could've been, and I don't endorse this behaviour. The most interesting tidbits (screenshots) would have come out anyway, just later, and officially in a whitehat manner. With patience more credible sources will arrive. This guy behaves like he is an oracle, cleverly taking advantage of the current state of affairs (lack of other sources which is used in his advantage, and used to draw attention away from valid concerns). Yes, I said oracle, because too often I read "Eldar tweeted [...]" while I was wondering who this person even was. Instead, anxiously waiting for more eyes with different backgrounds on the horizon. Eyes from people I know the background of more than this mysterious person. Knowing their background allows me to put things in perspective. E.g. there are certain community members whoknow a lot about engineering, hardware, electronics while there are also members who are UX designer, understand social networking, more 'normal user'-like.

Originally Posted by volt View Post
Well, I can tell you this... On each and all the alternatives I have considered to the N900, I can either use Opera Mini or Opera Mobile or both. The N800 also had Opera Mobile, if I understand things correctly.
OS2007 had a special version of Opera optimized. Basically a Linux/ARM port with touchscreen support. I wonder why nobody ever made a .deb of it.

Opera Mobile runs only on WM, S60, UIQ. The 9.x tree seems only for touchscreen WM.

Opera Mini requires Java ME (formerly J2ME). Java ME won't allow you to run Java applets.

Neither will have touchscreen support. Therefore you'd have to use some kind of dpad. Both are optimized for T9. As a Nokia E71 I do not have T9, and applications which are optimized for T9 are therefore difficult to us. (Examples: Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Skyfire, Sygic McGuider.) For occasional use, no problem, but its not ergonomic for serious usage.

I think I must have things all wrong because I can't understand why nobody else seem to care about no java while they actually care about no equalizer.
I can, till some degree, empathize but must experience the device and software in its full glory for a while to put into proportions.

Not only that, we'll also have to see how well Java SE or OpenJRE or MicroEmulator) work. But even if that all works stable with acceptable memory footprint for above reasons I would not put my money on a good working Opera Mobile or Opera Mini on your N900.
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