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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin View Post
ARJWright
I got the lesson as well Maemo community isnt mature and do not ready to go out of the sandbox. Sad, really sad. Because without strong community I do not believe in any success of Maemo in real world.

So my estimations about sales of next devices was corrected due to this (and also marketing is sociology of net nowadays Do not believe that a lot of people here understand what I mean exactly, but in any way, it was usefull for me
Eldar (if you are here and still listening);
I would not go as far to say that this group/site/platform isn't ready for a bigger slice of personalities to be a part of things here. As you probably know from your site(s) and the writings of tons of others in tech and other fields who have built life from something grassroots, its easier to dismiss things when we don't see similar seeds of success that we've seen in other areas. Reingold and others have postulated on this for at least a few decades now, and their lessons while observable and in play here, do endear themselves to not become expectations of future success. If you will, Maemo is only seen in life to this point - even in you seeing more behind the scenes with this platform and others - this group deserves the respect and expectations ot see things through.

Those estimations of sales and devices that you are collecting; I hope to get to read those (at Mobile Read or elsewhere). Because again, while you have a slice of the picture, there's more to come.

I don't know if its your position to come in and correct views here; but I am willing to say that you are responsible for dissemenating the kind of information that this (and other mobile communities that you interact with online and off) can use to grow from and hopefully change their future. SE has taken many of your words to heart - and even according to your own writings has changed things towards the better. Nokia/Maemo deserves the same.

Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
I thought long and hard before replying.

Respect and engagement are 2-way streets.
YES! Amen, and every other statement that a Sunday can offer you in agreeance.

I need to get to TX; between you, RCadden, and a few others, I would like to really sit longer on these subjects.

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
You're really inferring that about the tens of thousands of members of the Maemo Community based on a dozen or so posters in this particular thread?
No; I made that statement both directly for this thread and for the forum as a whole. There's a whole lot to be learned about how connected, developer-minded communities create, exist, grow, and die just from Maemo. Lots of the movements that have happened over the past years come from those lessons. From a person who studies this area more than he posts here and everywhere else, I hope for the lessons to be learned rather than for the legacy to be forgotten.

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