I am a gamer (not a good one) and I have a 360, Wii, DS, PS2, Xbox, GBA SP, heck I stiI am a gamer (not a good one) and I have a 360, Wii, DS, PS2, Xbox, GBA SP, heck I still have my Dreamcast hooked up and use it regularly. l have my Dreamcast hooked up and use it regularly. I think Nokia is missing a big opportunity with gaming on the N770/800 but possibly on purpose ? since they've anounced they are releasing a new N-Gage this Sept. I've only had my 800 for a few days now so I've not had a chance to explore many of the games yet but the ones I have, have been pretty rudamentary so far to say the least and with such a beautiful 800x480 touch screen its a real shame. Even for Nokia or a 3rd party dev to put out a simple DS game such as Clubhouse Games with WiFi/Lan/Internet support would be a big boost of support for their cause and to really put the N800 into mainstream consumerism. I do understdand where you are coming from about flash derived games/gaming but most of those games hold an attention span for all of about 2 mins, thats not to take anything away from all the hard work from the very talented creators and dev teams mind you, some flash based games have and are being made into actual games such as Line Rider a hugely popular flash based game which is currently being ported for the Wii and DS. Right now you almost have to wonder if the next Nxxx isn't gonna be a hybrid of the N-Gage and the N770/N800 ?