I agree, and they made a mistake trying to take Symbian down a tier with the N78's and N81's. Did alot to tarnish the Nseries brand, which was originally a premium brand. Cseries and Xseries will help that, hopefully, and maybe Maemo will hold more of the Nseries lineup in the future, or even have its own brand. Symbian^4 needs to hurry and get here, or they'll have some competitors right over its shoulder. I think they'll get there, but barely. Pretty risky moves by Nokia, but they think they can remain in the top two regardless, and I do too.