Ok guys, I just called Nokia to confirm my pre-order details. I asked the rep if they got any news lately about the dates. They told me November end ! I asked them if it was just another speculation or is there going to be some official confirmation of the dates. They said its more than speculation but they havent got a specific date yet. Infer what you can from it, or just ignore it like the millions of other posts regarding the dates Seriously I couldnt care less now, tired of these speculations and Nokia's silence on it !