Thread: Why not support AT&T 3G Bands? (Peter please respond)
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2009-10-28 , 16:36
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
I'm not sure that Nokia's phones have been the raging success with either the average joe or otherwise, the last time I checked. Can you check the numbers? I thought that Nokia lost marketshare in the period since the internet tablets were around--so it's probably not the just tablets' fault.
Sure I can check the numbers...market share of over 40% worldwide for celluar phones. I'd say that was pretty popular. Versus a relative pittance of internet tablets (sans celluar stack) sold world wide.

Near as I can tell, this whole new market that Nokia just about created and led (the Internet Tablet) is something for which they could have continued to pioneer--and it appears to be the trend you're seeing with several competitors that have popped up recently (Pandora, Archos 5 Internet Tablet, ODROID, etc.).
Yep, they could have..but instead decided they wanted to create a mainstream cellular device. You don't want a mainstream cellular device. That's cool..so perhaps the N900 isn't for you and you should look at the alternatives you listed. It's for me, however...and for a LOT of other people precisely BECAUSE it has an included cellular stack.

Instead, they've relegated the N900 to another iPhone wannabe. That'll be a raging success in the "mass market" alright. :P Treat it like the openly expandable, portable general computing device that it should be and it'll do better than the iPhone wannabe that it seems poised to be.
And a more expensive (modular) version would be even more popular how? Nothing like a $1000 tablet with a $300 available cellular upgrade to spur market uptake

I also don't buy the soldered battery argument. NOTHING excuses a soldered-in battery.. not size, not weight, not anything. Cell-phone batteries are thin enough and last well enough not to use that sorry excuse to charge people money to swap out a battery and make sure there's no third party market or competition.
Buy it or not....acceptable or not...the fact remains that it exists in the Apple products and it exists primarily due to cost concerns. Your opinion does not change the reality of the situation, however justified it might be.


Seems to me a company with Nokia's size and experience should have the resources and the intelligence to be able to make a small module that could be used across many devices to support a carrier.
Sure they could...but as has been repeatedly explained to you, it would wind up costing MORE than having everything integrated. Not to mention it would necessarily be even larger due to the space wasted with the modular connectors versus having chips soldered to a PCB. Sure..sign me up for N900-A aka "the brick"...bigger, more expensive, and doesn't provide a performance benefit. That'll be a best-seller for sure!

I remember hanging around people in Silicon Valley, back when I lived in Santa Clara in the late 90's and early 2000's, that used to build their own cell phones. I'm not sure if these are useful for your interests:
http://www.opencircuits.com/Open_Mob...ts#GSM_modules
Let me know when they get all of the functionality and performance of the N900 in the same form factor for less money spent

You might even want to take a look around the whole wiki for interesting project resources and information.
I'm sure there are plenty of interesting resources and information...that doesn't change the reality of the manufacturing process of consumer electronics.
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