I expected this, but was just trying to point out the irony of someone sometimes thinking they are talking to a direct source- verses quite the opposite. Wow, I have been called a hick (ok with that one), a ba$tard, SOB, but NEVER a racist Update: Though you assert I am a racist, I thought I did: Point is just because someone is speaking with "Nokia" or any company, does not mean you are getting a complete and accurate represention of the product and may not even be an on site sales or support rep. Almost every support company we have used at my past three companies has been in India, except one in Mexico. Would you have felt the same if I had said a hick support place in the US? Friends now