I just now !!! 12:00 pm 29/10/2009 phoned nokia uk and the guy said without any hesitation that its the 9th, i also asked him is this the same for the other suppliers such as MPD, he said no they will be despatching later (but he didn't say how much later) BTW. anyone knw what the hold music on 080033160211 (nokia sales uk) Its quite funky i like the track