Look at my name! Would I lie? Anyway, it certainly sounds like it will be sometime 9th-17th when it is released, maybe shipping from manuf on the 9th, pre-orders as soon as they arrive at e-tailers, and 16th/17th training/store front release? Who knows though, if that is the schedule, Nokia probably has a meeting with the development team to decide go/nogo at end of buisness today, I do not think anything is certain yet.